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What's in a pronoun?

Transgender gets judged by the San Diego Reader and KUSI


What's in a pronoun?

Should a San Diego Reader reporter have honored the request of a transgender artist to use feminine pronouns when referring to her in a story? And what was up with local TV station KUSI not allowing the artist to appear on a program because she was dressed as a woman?

At the center of the controversy is Ernie Grimm’s March 25 Reader cover story on Micha Cárdenas’ performance-art  exhibit, Becoming Dragon, at UCSD. Cárdenas, who was born male but has undergone hormone therapy and identifies as female, says she was initially reluctant to be interviewed by a Reader reporter given the weekly’s socially conservative leanings.

She says her doubts increased when Grimm asked her, at the end of the interview, “Do you believe that there’s a God who created you as you are?”

In addition to writing for the Reader, Grimm was once the editor of San Diego News Notes, a Catholic publication owned by Reader publisher Jim Holman that eventually became the California Catholic Daily. In an interview with CityBeat, Grimm says he was upfront with Cárdenas about his personal beliefs.

“I asked Micha straight out, ‘Do you believe as I do?’” he says, later adding, “My article was first-person journalism. So my reactions to things were part of the deal. That’s the beauty of ‘alt’ journalism—we can jump in and bring a little of ourselves to the story.”

The Reader didn’t run Grimm’s piece until three months after the interview. During that interval, Cárdenas and Grimm traded e-mails in which she asked him to refer to her in print using feminine pronouns, and Grimm informed her he would not.

“My belief is that none of us chooses our gender, that our genders are chosen by our creator,” Grim wrote to Cárdenas in February.

Grimm’s story ran March 25 as the Reader’s cover story. Throughout the long piece, Grimm referred to Cárdenas as a man: “he,” “his,” “him.”

“I felt I could not allow an interview subject to dictate how I would write the story,” Grimm tells CityBeat. “I think the question of whether people get to determine their own gender is still very much an open question and hasn’t been decided.”

But according to The Associated Press Stylebook, considered the journalism community’s bible on word usage, the question has very much been decided. Since 2006, the Stylebook has advised reporters to go with their transgender subject’s preferred pronouns. Grimm says the Reader doesn’t follow AP style.

Pronouns and God aside, Cárdenas wrote in her blog March 25 that Grimm had quoted her accurately “on the core issues on the performance.” So when Grimm asked her to appear with him on a March 29 segment of KUSI’s Good Morning San Diego, she agreed. She met the reporter at the studio and was waiting in the green room when the show’s interviewer walked in and told her she wouldn’t be allowed on camera because she was dressed as a woman. Grimm was interviewed on camera alone.

Cárdenas says her exclusion was no less than gender-based discrimination. For his part, Grimm says the incident was “clumsily handled” and that he felt Cárdenas should have been allowed on camera. Asked whether the station’s decision was simply a logical extension of his position on the pronoun issue—that, by insisting on calling her a man, he had essentially called the legitimacy of her personal identity into question—Grimm strongly disagreed.

“I wrote a story about Micha that was put on the largest alternative newspaper in the country,” he says. “If anything, that gave him legitimacy.”

Calls to KUSI for comment went unreturned as of press time.  Stephen Whitburn, a former San Diego City Council candidate and a leader in the city’s LGBT community, says he contacted station manager Steve Cohen, and was told Cárdenas’ exclusion was a mistake.

Tim Wulfemeyer, a professor at San Diego State University’s School of Journalism and Media Studies, says KUSI at the very least is guilty of bad preparation.  

“Obviously, KUSI must have known ahead of time that it was very likely [Cárdenas] would show up as a woman and expecting to be referred to as ‘she,’” he says. “I don’t know what went wrong, but in most cases you’d expect a station to have done a little homework ahead of time.”

Regarding Grimm’s story, Wulfemeyer says the reporter should have explained to readers his reasons for putting his personal feelings ahead of those of his subject.

“If [Grimm] or any journalist is going to take a principled position, rather than accept the professional way of handling a situation, then I think the audience will be well-served if the journalist explains his or her rationale for going against the grain,” he says. “That helps the reader put in perspective what’s been shared in the entire article. There’s been some research over the years that a journalist can tweak the message of a story with just an adjective change here or there.”   

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A fairly reported story, David. I thank you for that. Couple of quibbles:

1) the subhead: "Transgender gets judged by the San Diego Reader." Judge, like hate, is a very loaded word that gets thrown around far too irresponsibly. I didn't judge Micha. I still don't judge Micha.

2: "...Cárdenas, who was born male but has undergone hormone therapy... identifies as female." But when I talked to him, Micha identified his gender as "Neither [male or female.] Both. Neither and both." He also said, "I just don’t think man and woman really exist.” If he's both, then, by Micha's own logic, either set of pronouns is appropriate.

3. "The Associated Press Stylebook {is}considered the journalism community’s bible on word usage." Not true. It's the AP's bible, not the rest of the journalism community's bible -- certainly not the Reader's and I'm guessing not CB's. Every paper has it's own style guidelines.

posted by ErnieGrimm on 4/08/09 @ 10:51 a.m.

what a disingenuous load of claptrap from Ernie-

"...when I talked to him, Micha identified his gender as "Neither [male or female.] Both. Neither and both." He also said, "I just don’t think man and woman really exist.” If he's both, then, by Micha's own logic, either set of pronouns is appropriate."

If it was truly his belief that "either set of pronouns is appropriate", then there would have been no rational reason to NOT use the pronouns Micha asked him to use...

he makes it clear that it was his personal beliefs that drove his decision, and still claims that no personal judgment was involved- but then implies that it shouldn't have been a big deal either way....

he also says, "I felt I could not allow an interview subject to dictate how I would write the story", but then turns around and uses "Micha's own logic" as grounds for using the terminology he did- in effect saying that he used her terms and conditions when deciding how to write the story, so don't blame him.

It's like watching a six year old trying to weasel out of a lie by telling bigger and bigger lies, all the while not astute enough to know that everyone can see right through them all.

As for the Reader not following the AP Style Guide, that's most likely because what the Reader and Ernie Grimm practice is not journalism; it is religionist propaganda and character assassination masquerading as news..

one good thing that has come out of this article and its aftermath is that it is getting national attention and exposing the Reader the guileful, cowardly propagandist mouthpiece it is, that marginalizes transpeople on the one hand while taking in a good part of their advertising revenue from cosmetic surgeons and hair removal clinics who provide services necessary for medical transition to transsexuals on the other...hopefully people who care will let these advertisers know what kind of garbage their money is being used for.

Thanks to Citybeat for reporting on this.

posted by tina on 4/08/09 @ 01:04 p.m.

ernie grimm wrote: "2: "...Cárdenas, who was born male but has undergone hormone therapy... identifies as female." But when I talked to him, Micha identified his gender as "Neither [male or female.] Both. Neither and both." He also said, "I just don’t think man and woman really exist.” If he's both, then, by Micha's own logic, either set of pronouns is appropriate."

Ms. Grimm, seriously, for one, this is not true. You asked me what the gender of the dragon was. Secondly, you're trying to use my words against me, when in fact I was perfectly clear about the fact that I wanted you to use she/her pronouns. Trying to find some error in my logic to justify your act of discrediting and undermining my gender expression and my project is just despicable. Especially since I was on day 11 of an incredibly strenuous, never before attempted durational immersion in mixed reality. Do you choose to attack all of your interview subjects' character in this way? or just the lgbt ones?

"He" is not the same as "neither. both. neither and both", only in an overly simplified, bigoted mind like yours. The whole project was about looking at gender outside of the limits of male and female, so to ask your original question "is the dragon male or female" already fails to begin to grasp it or accept my identity as ontologically possible. Perhaps if you pick up one of the many books on gender and poststructuralist theory which I cited to you in the interview, you might begin to understand the error of your ways.

Thank you David for covering this situation and helping people be more aware that the San Diego Reader and KUSI are right wing propaganda machines.

posted by micha on 4/08/09 @ 05:37 p.m.

Actually, the simple truth is, contrary to what transgender activists try to claim, that we don't get to choose our gender. That is one side of the coin. The other side is that some people, in rare cases, are born with a gender that is at odds with their sex. Or, more precisely, one's brain can be sexually differentiated at odds with the body. That is relatively rare, and yes, some people do choose to rebel against their true gender. But for some of us, it is not a choice. Our true gender does not match our sex. We eventually cannot put up with it any longer, and we take the necessary steps to correct our bodies, as the brain cannot be changed. That is far different from those who are simply choosing to act out.

Now, claiming a gender that is "outside of male or female" is a sociopolitical statement, not a function of being born that way. Personally, even though I was born physically male, but mentally a woman, I think such things are rather silly. But hey, silly people can sometimes be entertaining. Or not. Unfortunately, far too many of them take themselves far too seriously. But, then again, so do a lot of right wing types.

So, simply put, there is truth on both sides of this story. But the whole truth is far more complex than either party is likely to admit.

posted by Just Jennifer on 4/08/09 @ 09:53 p.m.

Just Jennifer says:

"Now, claiming a gender that is "outside of male or female" is a sociopolitical statement, not a function of being born that way"

Absolute rubbish- there are many people born physically intersexed whose gender identity matches their having been born physically neither 100% male or female, as well as non- biologically IS people whose innate gender identity falls outside of the hopelessly rigid and simplistic binary notions that you seek to impose on everyone else.

http://www.intersexualite.org/intergende...

The attempts to marginalize non-binary gender IDs as being "silly" and "sociopolitical statements" and "not a function of being born that way" (read:not *real*) just show that binary normative bullying and disrespectful attitudes towards the right to self identify are hardly exclusive to people outside of the LGBT population.

Plenty of people don't have a strictly polarized gender identity and were born that way, and it isn't any more a "choice" or "acting out" or "silly" than claiming to be "born physically male, but mentally a woman" is...

one would think that someone making that claim would at least respect the rights of others to not have a "correct" gender identity forced on them and not be held up to ridicule for being honest and unapologetic for being who they are, but sadly transsexuals can be some of the worst offenders when it comes to cramming rigid gender roles and binary normative social constructs down the throats of gender variant people who don't think like them.

posted by tina on 4/09/09 @ 04:09 a.m.

"Techno Tranny Slut is the blog of dj lotu5. The blog is about the interplay of technology, gender, sex, desire and resistance. lotu5 is a transgender, genderqueer performance artist, political organizer and trouble maker. "

This is from Micha's blog (djlotus5). I'm sure under full disclosure she would want you to know that she is a "political organizer and trouble maker".

That explains the fake outrage by Micha, Tina, Tidmus and any one else that is just using this to attack religious, non-democrat heterosexuals. Isn't that called hating? You're posing and using the transgender community to get attention and funding. You and Tina are turning those that would want to help transgenders away. STFU Tina!

posted by posers on 4/09/09 @ 04:59 p.m.

Check out Ernie Grimm on the Internet. It becomes quite evident that Grimm (how appropriate is that name?) exemplifies the homophobia that sadly still has a home in the most reactionary crevices of the Roman Catholic Church.

posted by charlespratt on 4/11/09 @ 08:02 a.m.

Gotta love how just like Ernie Grimm, "posers" quotes Micha and practically DEMANDS that her words be taken at face value- when they can be somehow twisted to be used against her, that is...

but when it comes to another instance of self identification, Micha's words are not to be trusted, and it is the "posers" and Ernie Grimm's of the world who get to determine which of Micha's statements are to be respected as is, and which ones are to be summarily dismissed as invalid, all using the same double standard.

The basic argument is that her gender identity is somehow dishonest, but the best argument they can come up with requires a wholesale acceptance of *some of* Micha's own words as true and literal in every sense.

posted by tina on 4/14/09 @ 04:38 a.m.

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